Petrit Hasani - 2023-11-30 14:02:03
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Chris Buckridge - 2023-11-30 14:20:46
To Blake's point, next year's EuroDIG event (the European IGF event) will take place in Vilnius from 17-19 June.

Chris Buckridge - 2023-11-30 14:21:51
(and the Italian national IGF has been a notable success story in terms of participation numbers!)

Niall O'Reilly - 2023-11-30 14:21:53

Julf Helsingius - 2023-11-30 14:22:28
Same thing with the Finnish local one Finnish Internet Forum

Olivier Crépin-Leblond - 2023-11-30 14:24:42
IGF Initiatives -

Sivasubramanian Muthusamy - 2023-11-30 14:35:26
Map shiws 122 NRIs!

Sivasubramanian Muthusamy - 2023-11-30 14:35:39

Desiree Miloshevic - 2023-11-30 14:57:08
Thanks Chris for the dates...

Chris Buckridge - 2023-11-30 14:58:22
to Blake's question, I'm not sure about what's happening wrt to the law of the sea and cable cuts, but the area of international law and Internet issues is particualrly active at the moment, especially relating to the UN cybercrime treaty that is approaching finalisation...

Chris Buckridge - 2023-11-30 14:58:44

Suzanne Woolf - 2023-11-30 15:08:03
+1 Leslie

Petra Zeidler - 2023-11-30 15:08:55
"sufficient time" and "caring enough" probably help

Suzanne Woolf - 2023-11-30 15:10:15
I also suspect that there's a key factor not discussed here at all: Internet standards are not only more complex because of factors like installed base considerations, but are also less of it is pioneering, for just the reason talked about right now.

Suzanne Woolf - 2023-11-30 15:10:32
It's less interesting to early-career people.

Julf Helsingius - 2023-11-30 15:10:52

Avri Doria - 2023-11-30 15:11:00
will this be discussd in detail in the RASP IRTF research group?

Petrit Hasani - 2023-11-30 15:11:55
Hi Avri,
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Desiree Miloshevic - 2023-11-30 15:13:11
@avri we will read out your question and Suzanne's comment

Avri Doria - 2023-11-30 15:13:27

Suzanne Woolf - 2023-11-30 15:13:55
Let me clean it up then :-)

Desiree Miloshevic - 2023-11-30 15:14:33
thanks :) 😊

Desiree Miloshevic - 2023-11-30 15:14:47
you can also read it out yourself

Suzanne Woolf - 2023-11-30 15:14:48
Internet standards are not only more complex because of factors like installed base considerations, but also less of the work is pioneering, for just the reasons talked about right now.
It's less interesting to early-career people.

Avri Doria - 2023-11-30 15:15:25
not a question, I also expect that an attempt to make things clearer and easier to understand, is part of what makes documents more complex. and trying to scale to more inclusivity makes processes longer and harder to understand.

Desiree Miloshevic - 2023-11-30 15:16:22
@Suzanne - thank you - should you wish of course to read it out yourself you're welcome

Julf Helsingius - 2023-11-30 15:16:22
After Avri's question we'll do general Q&A

Suzanne Woolf - 2023-11-30 15:20:26
Des-- no worries, I think it was covered.

Desiree Miloshevic - 2023-11-30 15:20:33

Petrit Hasani - 2023-11-30 15:21:07
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