Robert Kisteleki - 2023-11-30 11:01:53
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Robert Kisteleki - 2023-11-30 11:03:56
Please note there's a virtual poll open now
Shane Kerr - 2023-11-30 11:04:08
Did Raymond just say that the RIPE meeting does not work without whining? 😉
Robert Kisteleki - 2023-11-30 11:04:22
he is not wrong ;-)
Eric Vyncke - 2023-11-30 11:06:25
Side note: kind of weird to have started the poll before the candidates' presentations and seeing the real-time results :-o
Shane Kerr - 2023-11-30 11:06:39
I totally agree with Eric.
Juan Pedro Cerezo Martin - 2023-11-30 11:06:40
I agree with Eric
Elvis-Daniel Velea - 2023-11-30 11:06:54
yeah, the poll should last at least until both presentations are finished
Shane Kerr - 2023-11-30 11:06:57
Even Eurovision waits until voting is over before sharing the results!
Elvis-Daniel Velea - 2023-11-30 11:07:03
maybe another 5 minutes could be added
Tim Chown - 2023-11-30 11:07:13
who is speaking?
Shane Kerr - 2023-11-30 11:07:21
Christian is speaking
Jen Linkova - 2023-11-30 11:07:26
sorry that was clearly a mistake on our side ;(
Tim Chown - 2023-11-30 11:07:39
thanks, i guess i missed paolo
Willem Toorop - 2023-11-30 11:07:41
The poll needs a bit more time I think
Shane Kerr - 2023-11-30 11:07:50
No, Paolo has not had a chance to speak yet.
Niall O'Reilly - 2023-11-30 11:07:51
Need to extend or re-star poll, as it will close before both candidates can have presented
Tim Chown - 2023-11-30 11:08:00
so we cant close the poll until that
Elvis-Daniel Velea - 2023-11-30 11:08:07
paolo hasn’t spoken yet
Jen Linkova - 2023-11-30 11:08:29
>so we cant close the poll until that
working on it
Tim Chown - 2023-11-30 11:09:03
oops
Jen Linkova - 2023-11-30 11:09:40
we'll start again, sorry
Elvis-Daniel Velea - 2023-11-30 11:09:44
now if one person changes its vote, we’ll have two new WG chairs :)))
Jen Linkova - 2023-11-30 11:09:46
they can't extend it, sorry
Elvis-Daniel Velea - 2023-11-30 11:09:52
but don’t you all change at the same time.. ok?
Tim Chown - 2023-11-30 11:10:18
did he say huawei?
Jen Linkova - 2023-11-30 11:10:25
yes
Jen Linkova - 2023-11-30 11:10:37
apologies for the confusion
Jen Linkova - 2023-11-30 11:10:41
with the voting
Shane Kerr - 2023-11-30 11:11:38
I expect the selection process for IPv6 working group chair to be stuck in the courts for months now!
Elvis-Daniel Velea - 2023-11-30 11:12:19
well, we needed a second vote anyway, first one was too close :P
Tim Chown - 2023-11-30 11:12:26
it seemed neither has long-standing wg experience?
Jen Linkova - 2023-11-30 11:12:40
>I expect the selection process for IPv6 working group chair to be stuck in the courts for months now!
I'd have no options then but to resign so both candidates can become chairs ;-)
Elvis-Daniel Velea - 2023-11-30 11:13:24
you can ask them to reply to e-mails alternatively, and still keep them both :P
Tim Chown - 2023-11-30 11:14:41
looking forward to finally hearing the solution to the 20+ year debate on how to multihome with IPv6 :)
Jen Linkova - 2023-11-30 11:14:56
what, the chairs are supposed to reply to emails?!! Nobody told me it's a part of the job!!
Elvis-Daniel Velea - 2023-11-30 11:15:17
Tim, they both introduced themselves on the mailing list a couple of weeks ago
Tim Chown - 2023-11-30 11:15:57
i'm sure either will do a good job, just expected to see long-standing 'regulars' put themselves forward. or maybe they've all done it :)
Elvis-Daniel Velea - 2023-11-30 11:16:11
Jen, your mere presence is more than enough, if you even present a bit, the community will be in debt
Elvis-Daniel Velea - 2023-11-30 11:18:39
Tim, I was also surprised to not find any e-mails from Christian to the mailing list
Yannis Nikolopoulos - 2023-11-30 11:20:24
well, to be fair, it is a quiet WG :D
Elvis-Daniel Velea - 2023-11-30 11:20:59
Paolo’s experience seems to be coming from IETF and I don’t think it matters who the employer is
Elvis-Daniel Velea - 2023-11-30 11:21:31
Yannis, true.. but really, not even 1 e-mail until the nomination :)
Eric Vyncke - 2023-11-30 11:23:34
This may explain why only 41 votes out of 88 connected participants
Tim Chown - 2023-11-30 11:24:04
so the answer is PI!
Eric Vyncke - 2023-11-30 11:24:16
3.14
Jen Linkova - 2023-11-30 11:24:45
so the answer is irrational...
Eric Vyncke - 2023-11-30 11:24:51
;-)
Stephen Strowes - 2023-11-30 11:25:25
on voting: I wonder what the venn diagram looks like for (people in the room) (people on meetecho) (people on list)
Petra Zeidler - 2023-11-30 11:28:51
you'd need to distribute routes from the router to the clients and hope that works well enough
Tim Chown - 2023-11-30 11:31:40
rule 5.5!
Jen Linkova - 2023-11-30 11:31:52
yep
Tim Chown - 2023-11-30 11:32:15
maybe wg chairs follow rule 5.5, last one to receive an email replies.
Jen Linkova - 2023-11-30 11:38:41
No, it's not rule 5.5 - it what I had a draft for long time ago, rule 8.5 - "use the most recently received PIO" - didn't go anywhere due to lack of implementation ;)
Tim Chown - 2023-11-30 11:38:53
:)
Niall O'Reilly - 2023-11-30 11:39:41
Quite a bit of loss on path to where I am in Dublin ATM: chopped audio and freezin video.
Tim Chown - 2023-11-30 11:41:34
let's see if eric mentionings the "NPTv6 to standard track" proposal.
Jen Linkova - 2023-11-30 11:42:25
oh dear..
Yannis Nikolopoulos - 2023-11-30 11:43:09
that was a dad joke
Jen Linkova - 2023-11-30 11:43:36
I did suggest to remane the WG to 6PEOPLE though
Niall O'Reilly - 2023-11-30 11:43:37
Quit and rejoined; normal now.
Peter Hessler - 2023-11-30 11:44:32
I'm not sure we should update RFCs for dumb designs
Peter Hessler - 2023-11-30 11:44:36
Don't Do That(tm)
Petra Zeidler - 2023-11-30 11:44:48
why don't they renumber?
Eric Vyncke - 2023-11-30 12:00:23
@Tim: I should have indeed mentionned NPTv6 to standard track (but I had to select some I-D)
Jen Linkova - 2023-11-30 12:01:19
You see, I have way too many drafts, Eric didn't have time to mention anything else...
Peter Hessler - 2023-11-30 12:20:52
*applause*
