Matt Parker - 2023-11-30 15:56:48
Hi everyone, I'm Matt from the RIPE NCC. This chat panel is meant for discussion ONLY. If you have questions for the speaker and you want the session chair to read it out, please write it in the Q&A window also stating your affiliation. Otherwise, you can ask questions using the microphone icon.

Brian Nisbet - 2023-11-30 16:02:23
And if you wish to ask a remote question with voice, please remember to request video & mic permissions in MeetEcho! Thank you!

Niall O'Reilly - 2023-11-30 16:02:30
Matt, my left-over Q+A question from Co-Op can be binned. Thanks.

Matt Parker - 2023-11-30 16:04:25
Ok, thanks Niall

Niall O'Reilly - 2023-11-30 16:12:51
Is Q+A disabled ATM? I don't seem to be able to enter anything ...

Andrew Campling - 2023-11-30 16:13:29
@Niall it seems to be working for me ATM

Matt Parker - 2023-11-30 16:13:38
It seems to be working for me - could you try reconnecting?

Sascha Lenz - 2023-11-30 16:14:04
okkkay, as an old-white-man person, I do hate unnecessary change for no apparent reason, but ... nicely done ;-)

Maria Häll - 2023-11-30 16:14:50

Niall O'Reilly - 2023-11-30 16:15:14
I see a blank panel, but no place to put in affiliation or question

Brian Nisbet - 2023-11-30 16:15:27
It's because you're listed as a chair.

Tobia Castaldi - 2023-11-30 16:15:34
Hi Niall, as a chair of the session unfortunately you are not able to post questions

Brian Nisbet - 2023-11-30 16:15:40
You'll have to be "demoted" to ask text questions.

Niall O'Reilly - 2023-11-30 16:15:43
Oh. Nobody told ME!

Niall O'Reilly - 2023-11-30 16:16:08
Demotion would be fine 8-)

Brian Nisbet - 2023-11-30 16:17:01

Brian Nisbet - 2023-11-30 16:17:11
Let me know if you want the power back. :)

Tobia Castaldi - 2023-11-30 16:17:17
As you figured out you can enable your webcam and microphone at any time

Brian Nisbet - 2023-11-30 16:17:48
Which you can't do now, so, yeah, if you want that, just say and we can promote you again. Whatever you desire, Mr Vice-Chair!

Niall O'Reilly - 2023-11-30 16:17:50
GRMA, a Bhriain!

Harry Cross - 2023-11-30 16:27:39
Are AFRINIC even in a legal situation to hold that vote?

Matt Parker - 2023-11-30 16:28:59
@Harry remember to add the question in the Q&A panel if you want it to be asked by the co-chair!

Harry Cross - 2023-11-30 16:30:08
I'm in the room, was just more pondering

Matt Parker - 2023-11-30 16:31:42
ok, feel free to keep pondering here 😀

Vesna Manojlovic - 2023-11-30 16:36:53
As a community member, I support two Mastodon servers: one for staff, one for RIPE community.

Stephen Strowes - 2023-11-30 16:37:03
so folks know, there's been an ongoing discussion in the forums on this:

Vesna Manojlovic - 2023-11-30 16:37:20
Here is a Forum post where you can express your opinion about this: ^^^

Vesna Manojlovic - 2023-11-30 16:37:33

Michael Richardson - 2023-11-30 16:40:29
@Vesna, why do you think that the RIPE community is underserved by other entities?

Michael Richardson - 2023-11-30 16:41:06
"we geeks" +1

Peter Hessler - 2023-11-30 16:41:07
I would be very weary of providing instances for the community to use to post from

Elmar Bins - 2023-11-30 16:42:02
Oh yeah. all of us have some dark sides nobody wants exposed on a RIPE run server...

Vesna Manojlovic - 2023-11-30 16:42:43
@Michael : RIPE community is well served by existing servers, AND the beauty of federation is that adding one more server, run by the "secretariat" of the RIPE community.

Stephen Strowes - 2023-11-30 16:43:33
an open registration policy might be a lot, but accounts for key roles in the community and/or WG accounts on a instance wouldn't be so onerous

Peter Hessler - 2023-11-30 16:44:52
this is one of the times where I'm really missing the hallway track to continue this discussion

Brian Nisbet - 2023-11-30 16:45:02
We're missing you too, Peter!

Vesna Manojlovic - 2023-11-30 16:45:10
@peter: forum?

Peter Hessler - 2023-11-30 16:47:26
how many times do I need to click "I accept T/Cs", heh :)

Stephen Strowes - 2023-11-30 16:51:05
until morale improves?

Peter Hessler - 2023-11-30 17:01:42
lol, got suspended on the forum because I tried to add links. my bad.

Vesna Manojlovic - 2023-11-30 17:04:10
adding links should be possible... bug??

Peter Hessler - 2023-11-30 17:04:25
brand new user, it told me only 2, and I thought I got it to 2

Harry Cross - 2023-11-30 17:04:26
Maybe URL reputation?

Elmar Bins - 2023-11-30 17:04:56
+1 for not doing this on legacy

Andreas Wittkemper - 2023-11-30 17:09:29
+1 Rüdiger

Andrew Campling - 2023-11-30 17:09:46
+1 for using MeetEcho for the mic queue etc

Avri Doria - 2023-11-30 17:10:44
yeah, the meetecho queue has seemed to only have been an afterthought

Sascha Lenz - 2023-11-30 17:10:46
jup, prefer that, too

Daniel Karrenberg - 2023-11-30 17:11:42
+1 to rüdiger

Suzanne Woolf - 2023-11-30 17:13:00
If you're moderating a session, a single integrated queue is MUCH easier.

Stephen Strowes - 2023-11-30 17:13:12
strong agree with the sentiments here, and as a WG co-chair: I've occasionally been bad at monitoring meetecho while in the room, and I've also been skipped as a remote chair

Avri Doria - 2023-11-30 17:14:43
you do not have to scan in if you do not wish to speak at ietf.

Andrew Campling - 2023-11-30 17:15:47
@Avri - actually you are *meant* to scan in order to sign in to the session, replicating the blue sheets of old.

Vesna Manojlovic - 2023-11-30 17:15:55
+1 for SSO as Ondrey suggested!

Suzanne Woolf - 2023-11-30 17:18:03
I have never kicked anyone out of a physical mic queue for not signing in online. But I do remind them it's easier for the chairs & note-takers to manage a single queue.

Avri Doria - 2023-11-30 17:18:13
@andrew well, ok. but just as everyone did not sign the blue sheet, not everyone scans in. the ability to not do so, though not mean to be used, was used.

Peter Hessler - 2023-11-30 17:19:23
I had no idea that QR code existed

Andreas Wittkemper - 2023-11-30 17:19:32
maybe people didn't know ?

Peter Hessler - 2023-11-30 17:19:54
the badges are pretty dense with information, so that's easy to miss

Niall O'Reilly - 2023-11-30 17:21:02

Stephen Strowes - 2023-11-30 17:21:36
the meetecho links only arrive in one email I think, whether online or onsite

Matt Parker - 2023-11-30 17:22:50
This session has now ended. The next session is ‘Diversity, Equity and Inclusion in Tech’ and it will start at 18:00 UTC+1. More info on the RIPE 87 meeting plan:

Peter Hessler - 2023-11-30 17:23:20
thanks all!